Welcome back to my interview with Pete Greasley, senior pastor of Christchurch in Newport, Wales. You can read part one here.

Pete, if you could study under any theologian in church history (excluding those men in Scripture) who would it be and why?

Hmm; probably Calvin because of his extensive grasp of seemingly everything in a way it hadn’t been understood since the apostles!

Also, although he’s not really a hard line theologian, I would have loved the opportunity to hang at the Bird and Baby in Oxford with Lewis and the rest of the Inklings, just to hear how they processed and thought through the tough questions. (I’ve spent some time there with my friend Jeff Purswell and we tried to recreate the scene…but unfortunately there was only one great mind in the room; and it wasn’t mine!)

What single piece of counsel (or constructive criticism) has most improved your preaching?

My wife Jenny: ‘When you’ve said what you need to say, shut up!’

Also three quotes from Mr. Spurgeon:

“It is better to fail attempting the right subject, than to succeed in the wrong; and the right subject is Jesus Christ and Him crucified. To even attempt that subject is a noble thing in itself.”

“I am content to live and die as a mere repeater of scriptural teaching, as a person who has thought out nothing and invented nothing, as one who never thought invention to be any part of his calling, but who concluded that he was simply to be a mouth for God to the people, mourning that anything of his own should come between.”

“I always feel that I have not done my duty as a preacher of the gospel if I go out of this pulpit without having clearly set before sinners the gospel. I sometimes think that you have so often and so long heard me tell this story, that you will get weary of it; but I cannot help it if you do—I had better weary you than be false to my charge.”

What books on preaching, or examples of it, have you found most influential in your own preaching?

Christ-Centered Preaching by Bryan Chapell

The Sacred Anointing: The Preaching of Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones by Tony Sargent

Preach the Word: Essays on Expository Preaching edited by Leland Ryken and Todd Wilson

I like to listen to our friend Mike Bullmore every week online. I’m trying to learn substance with brevity; he’s a great example that I want to imitate.

What single bit of counsel has made the most significant difference in your effective use of time?

When I started work at 16, my father, knowing me to be the laziest boy he’d ever come across, bought me a wall plaque to take with me into work. It just said in bold letters “DO IT NOW!” It’s been helpful advice, though not always heeded!

What single bit of counsel has made the most significant difference in your leadership?

No single piece of counsel comes to mind, but I think a message that you, C.J., brought a number of years ago from 1 Corinthians 1 on Paul’s confidence in the grace of God towards the Corinthians [“Grace and the Adventure of Leadership”], probably impacted me and has remained with me more than anything else of which I’m aware in terms of leadership. If Paul can give thanks for them and have confidence in God’s grace towards them, then I can do the same.

Join me next time for the third and final part of my interview with my friend, Pete Greasley.